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McCain, November 21 2005

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McCain, John (U.S. senator). "Torture's Terrible Toll." Newsweek (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032542/site/newsweek. November 21 2005): http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10019179/site/newsweek/.


Message Unit 1 - an example of patriotized history

The US has tortured lots of people all over the world for many decades.
The US didn't torture before now, and habitually doesn't torture.

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undermine the values we hold dear

Message Unit 2 - an example of patriotized history

The US conquest of Iraq has nothing to do with any US war against an Islamic terrorist organization. The US conquest of Iraq is about taking over Iraq, and is not defensive. Nor is the US conquest of Iraq part of a US opposition to terror as a technique, because the US is not opposed to terror as a technique, and uses terror itself, extensively. Iraq was not supporting terror against the US prior to the US conquest of Iraq, but the US was supporting terror in Iraq. Since then, Iraq and the Iraqis have still not supported terror in the US, while the US project in Iraq has gone from being a war of aggression (at the outset), to being an act of terrorism, as the US project now consists of using military force to kill Iraqi citizens (who have no military) for fighting against US rule of their country.
Current US military actions, including the one in Iraq, are part of a defensive war that the US is waging against an Islamic terrorist organization.

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the administration's intentions and motives ... their determination to prevent terrorists from inflicting another atrocity on the American people

Message Unit 3 - an example of patriotized history

The US is fighting against citizens of Iraq, a country that it conquered; neither they nor Iraq's government were doing anything to the US. The US is doing conquest, not defense, in Iraq.
The US is fighting against someone who is trying to or did try to attack or harm the US or Americans in some way.

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sworn to protect

Message Unit 4 - an example of patriotized history

The US has tortured lots of people all over the world for many decades.
The US didn't torture before now, and habitually doesn't torture.

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might offend American values

Message Unit 5 - an example of patriotized history

If citizens of a country attack US soldiers who are in that country, it is the US soldiers who are commiting an act of aggression, not the citizens of the country they are in.
If citizens of a country attack US soldiers who are in that country, it is the citizens of that country who are commiting an act of aggression, just as if they were attacking US citizens in the US. Thus the US government is the natural owner of any country that it decides to occupy.

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prevent attacks on our soldiers or our allies or on the American people.

Message Unit 6 - an example of patriotized history

The US is fighting against citizens of Iraq, a country that it conquered; neither they nor Iraq's government were doing anything to the US. The US is doing conquest, not defense, in Iraq.
The US is fighting against someone who is trying to or did try to attack or harm the US or Americans in some way.

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It is also quite fair to attribute the administration's position ... to the president's and vice president's appropriate concern for acquiring actionable intelligence that could prevent attacks

Message Unit 7 - an example of patriotized history

The US is fighting against citizens of Iraq, a country that it conquered; neither they nor Iraq's government were doing anything to the US. The US is doing conquest, not defense, in Iraq.
The US is fighting against someone who is trying to or did try to attack or harm the US or Americans in some way.

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security of American lives

Message Unit 8 - an example of patriotized history

The US conquest of Iraq has nothing to do with any US war against an Islamic terrorist organization. The US conquest of Iraq is about taking over Iraq, and is not defensive. Nor is the US conquest of Iraq part of a US opposition to terror as a technique, because the US is not opposed to terror as a technique, and uses terror itself, extensively. Iraq was not supporting terror against the US prior to the US conquest of Iraq, but the US was supporting terror in Iraq. Since then, Iraq and the Iraqis have still not supported terror in the US, while the US project in Iraq has gone from being a war of aggression (at the outset), to being an act of terrorism, as the US project now consists of using military force to kill Iraqi citizens (who have no military) for fighting against US rule of their country.
Current US military actions, including the one in Iraq, are part of a defensive war that the US is waging against an Islamic terrorist organization.

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this war

Message Unit 9 - an example of patriotized history

The US conquest of Iraq has nothing to do with any US war against an Islamic terrorist organization. The US conquest of Iraq is about taking over Iraq, and is not defensive. Nor is the US conquest of Iraq part of a US opposition to terror as a technique, because the US is not opposed to terror as a technique, and uses terror itself, extensively. Iraq was not supporting terror against the US prior to the US conquest of Iraq, but the US was supporting terror in Iraq. Since then, Iraq and the Iraqis have still not supported terror in the US, while the US project in Iraq has gone from being a war of aggression (at the outset), to being an act of terrorism, as the US project now consists of using military force to kill Iraqi citizens (who have no military) for fighting against US rule of their country.
Current US military actions, including the one in Iraq, are part of a defensive war that the US is waging against an Islamic terrorist organization.

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in conflict with the unyielding inhumanity of our vicious enemy

Message Unit 10 - an example of patriotized history

Many people that the US captures are captured because the US suspects them of opposing US conquest of their country, not because the US suspects them of terrorism.
When the US captures people, it does so because it suspects them of terrorism.

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should not torture or treat inhumanely terrorists we have captured. The abuse of prisoners harms, not helps, our war effort.

Message Unit 11 - an example of patriotized history

The US conquest of Iraq has nothing to do with any US war against an Islamic terrorist organization. The US conquest of Iraq is about taking over Iraq, and is not defensive. Nor is the US conquest of Iraq part of a US opposition to terror as a technique, because the US is not opposed to terror as a technique, and uses terror itself, extensively. Iraq was not supporting terror against the US prior to the US conquest of Iraq, but the US was supporting terror in Iraq. Since then, Iraq and the Iraqis have still not supported terror in the US, while the US project in Iraq has gone from being a war of aggression (at the outset), to being an act of terrorism, as the US project now consists of using military force to kill Iraqi citizens (who have no military) for fighting against US rule of their country.
Current US military actions, including the one in Iraq, are part of a defensive war that the US is waging against an Islamic terrorist organization

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should not torture or treat inhumanely terrorists we have captured. The abuse of prisoners harms, not helps, our war effort.

Message Unit 12 - an example of patriotized history

The US conquest of Iraq has nothing to do with any US war against an Islamic terrorist organization. The US conquest of Iraq is about taking over Iraq, and is not defensive. Nor is the US conquest of Iraq part of a US opposition to terror as a technique, because the US is not opposed to terror as a technique, and uses terror itself, extensively. Iraq was not supporting terror against the US prior to the US conquest of Iraq, but the US was supporting terror in Iraq. Since then, Iraq and the Iraqis have still not supported terror in the US, while the US project in Iraq has gone from being a war of aggression (at the outset), to being an act of terrorism, as the US project now consists of using military force to kill Iraqi citizens (who have no military) for fighting against US rule of their country.
Current US military actions, including the one in Iraq, are part of a defensive war that the US is waging against an Islamic terrorist organization.

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While some enemies, and Al Qaeda surely, will never be bound by the principle of reciprocity, we should have concern for those Americans captured by more traditional enemies, if not in this war then in the next.

Message Unit 13 - an example of patriotized history

The US has tortured lots of people all over the world for many decades.
The US didn't torture before now, and habitually doesn't torture.

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we should not undermine today our defense of international prohibitions against torture

Message Unit 14 - an example of patriotized history

The US conquest of Iraq has nothing to do with any US war against an Islamic terrorist organization. The US conquest of Iraq is about taking over Iraq, and is not defensive. Nor is the US conquest of Iraq part of a US opposition to terror as a technique, because the US is not opposed to terror as a technique, and uses terror itself, extensively. Iraq was not supporting terror against the US prior to the US conquest of Iraq, but the US was supporting terror in Iraq. Since then, Iraq and the Iraqis have still not supported terror in the US, while the US project in Iraq has gone from being a war of aggression (at the outset), to being an act of terrorism, as the US project now consists of using military force to kill Iraqi citizens (who have no military) for fighting against US rule of their country.
Current US military actions, including the one in Iraq, are part of a defensive war that the US is waging against an Islamic terrorist organization.

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Al Qaeda ... But I doubt they will be the last enemy America will fight

Message Unit 15 - an example of patriotized history

The US conquest of Iraq has nothing to do with any US war against an Islamic terrorist organization. The US conquest of Iraq is about taking over Iraq, and is not defensive. Nor is the US conquest of Iraq part of a US opposition to terror as a technique, because the US is not opposed to terror as a technique, and uses terror itself, extensively. Iraq was not supporting terror against the US prior to the US conquest of Iraq, but the US was supporting terror in Iraq. Since then, Iraq and the Iraqis have still not supported terror in the US, while the US project in Iraq has gone from being a war of aggression (at the outset), to being an act of terrorism, as the US project now consists of using military force to kill Iraqi citizens (who have no military) for fighting against US rule of their country.
Current US military actions, including the one in Iraq, are part of a defensive war that the US is waging against an Islamic terrorist organization.

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in this war

Message Unit 16 - an example of patriotized history

The US is fighting to preserve its own tyranny over the citizens of Iraq.
The US is fighting for freedom.

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a struggle to advance freedom in the face of terror in places where oppressive rule has bred the malevolence that creates terrorists

Message Unit 17 - an example of patriotized history

In Iraq, the point of the US action is not to oppose terrorism as a technique.

1. Before 2003, the US was supporting terror in Iraq and Iraq wasn't supporting terror in the US.

2. Since 2003, the US has been doing terror in Iraq and Iraq hasn't been doing terror in the US.

3. The US conquest of Iraq is about taking over Iraq, not about fighting terror.

4. The criterion for having the members of your organization hunted down and killed in Iraq is whether you oppose the US conquest, not whether you are a terrorist. The first top employee of the US in Iraq, Allawi, was a terrorist who had worked for the US doing terrorism in Iraq prior to the US takeover, and of course the US military is carrying out extensive terror campaigns in an attempt to force the Iraqi citizens to submit to the Americans and the Iraqis who work for them.
In Iraq, the point of the US action is to oppose terrorism as a technique.

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a struggle to advance freedom in the face of terror in places where oppressive rule has bred the malevolence that creates terrorists

Message Unit 18 - an example of patriotized history

In some places, like Iraq and Afghanistan, some substate terrorist groups were nurtured by money that the US gave them.
Terrorists are nurtured by malevolence that arises as a reaction to oppressive rule.

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a struggle to advance freedom in the face of terror in places where oppressive rule has bred the malevolence that creates terrorists

Message Unit 19 - an example of patriotized history

Other than the torture issue, the US has invaded someone else's country and established itself as dictator there. It has already killed many tens of thousands of the citizens and imprisoned tens of thousands more, targeting all who fought against US rule of their country, and these acts are ongoing. The US has decided that the US will be the one to decide who lives and dies in Iraq, despite the fact that it cannot be unelected by those over whom it exercises this power. Finally, the US is establishing its own dominance over the Iraqis for the future, with US plans for a US-led "Iraqi military," whose job will be to kill Iraqis for the US, not to defend Iraq from foreign countries. This force will be backed by US aircraft flown by US pilots, some of whom will actually be flying remotely from Nevada. These US-controlled aircraft will be equipped with high-tech devices for spying on and killing the Iraqi citizens. This project is already underway.
Other than the torture issue, US actions toward Iraq have been exemplary.

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they threaten our moral standing

Message Unit 20 - an example of patriotized history

In this case, on nontorture topics, US behavior has been wonderful, certainly better than that of its enemies

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expose us to false but widely disseminated charges that democracies are no more inherently idealistic and moral than other regimes

Message Unit 21 - an example of patriotized history

The US conquest of Iraq has nothing to do with any US war against an Islamic terrorist organization. The US conquest of Iraq is about taking over Iraq, and is not defensive. Nor is the US conquest of Iraq part of a US opposition to terror as a technique, because the US is not opposed to terror as a technique, and uses terror itself, extensively. Iraq was not supporting terror against the US prior to the US conquest of Iraq, but the US was supporting terror in Iraq. Since then, Iraq and the Iraqis have still not supported terror in the US, while the US project in Iraq has gone from being a war of aggression (at the outset), to being an act of terrorism, as the US project now consists of using military force to kill Iraqi citizens (who have no military) for fighting against US rule of their country.
Current US military actions, including the one in Iraq, are part of a defensive war that the US is waging against an Islamic terrorist organization.

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This is an existential fight, to be sure. If they could, Islamic extremists

Message Unit 22 - an example of patriotized history

Both prior to 2003 and since, the US supported and committed terror in Iraq.
The US doesn't do terror or support terror.

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who resort to terror

Message Unit 23 - an example of patriotized history

The US is fighting against citizens of Iraq, a country that it conquered; neither they nor Iraq's government were doing anything to the US. The US is doing conquest, not defense, in Iraq.
The US is fighting against someone who is trying to or did try to attack or harm the US or Americans in some way.

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would destroy us utterly

Message Unit 24 - an example of patriotized history

In this case, on nontorture topics, US behavior has been wonderful, certainly better than that of its enemies

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American political values

Message Unit 25 - an example of patriotized history

Iraq was a tasty treat for the US; adding it to the long list of US-dominated nonsovereign states fit perfectly with US objectives.
The US didn't want to conquer Iraq; it was a painful duty.

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an awful business

Message Unit 26 - an example of patriotized history

The US is fighting for control of someone else's country.
The US is fighting for a noble cause.

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no matter how noble the cause for which it is fought

Message Unit 27 - an example of patriotized history

Both prior to 2003 and since, the US supported and committed terror in Iraq.
The US doesn't do terror or support terror.

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I don't mourn the loss of any terrorist's life.

Message Unit 28 - an example of patriotized history

The US and its troops have pledged themselves to the intentional destruction of innocent lives. The US is in Iraq trying to kill Iraqis who are in Iraq. All of the people, including fighters, that the US is trying to kill in Iraq are innocent. The US is targeting Iraqis for resisting the US conquest of Iraq; it is not targeting them for committing a crime, but for opposing a crime.
The US and its troops haven't pledged themselves to the intentional destruction of innocent lives.

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They have pledged their lives to the intentional destruction of innocent lives

Message Unit 29 - an example of patriotized history

In this case, on nontorture topics, US behavior has been wonderful, certainly better than that of its enemies

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our greatest strength--that we are different and better than our enemies

Message Unit 30 - an example of patriotized history

The US has tortured lots of people all over the world for many decades.
The US didn't torture before now, and habitually doesn't torture.

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our greatest strength--that we are different and better than our enemies

Message Unit 31 - an example of patriotized history

The US is violating the rights of the citizens of other countries (to death) on a routine basis.
The US is fighting for the rights of the individual.

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we fight for an idea ... that all men are created equal and endowed by their Creator with inalienable rights

Message Unit 32 - an example of patriotized history

The US has tortured lots of people all over the world for many decades.
The US didn't torture before now, and habitually doesn't torture.

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our liberal notions

Message Unit 33 - an example of patriotized history

Habitually, the US behaves better than its enemies.

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our liberal notions

Message Unit 34 - an example of patriotized history

Ordinarily, we would say a person of good will must unpatriotically oppose their own country when it harms the people of other countries in order to take what is theirs.
Americans of good will are patriots.

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Americans of good will, all patriots

Message Unit 35 - an example of patriotized history

The US conquest of Iraq has nothing to do with any US war against an Islamic terrorist organization. The US conquest of Iraq is about taking over Iraq, and is not defensive. Nor is the US conquest of Iraq part of a US opposition to terror as a technique, because the US is not opposed to terror as a technique, and uses terror itself, extensively. Iraq was not supporting terror against the US prior to the US conquest of Iraq, but the US was supporting terror in Iraq. Since then, Iraq and the Iraqis have still not supported terror in the US, while the US project in Iraq has gone from being a war of aggression (at the outset), to being an act of terrorism, as the US project now consists of using military force to kill Iraqi citizens (who have no military) for fighting against US rule of their country.
Current US military actions, including the one in Iraq, are part of a defensive war that the US is waging against an Islamic terrorist organization.

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argue about what is appropriate and necessary to combat this unconventional enemy

Message Unit 36 - an example of patriotized history

The US conquest of Iraq has nothing to do with any US war against an Islamic terrorist organization. The US conquest of Iraq is about taking over Iraq, and is not defensive. Nor is the US conquest of Iraq part of a US opposition to terror as a technique, because the US is not opposed to terror as a technique, and uses terror itself, extensively. Iraq was not supporting terror against the US prior to the US conquest of Iraq, but the US was supporting terror in Iraq. Since then, Iraq and the Iraqis have still not supported terror in the US, while the US project in Iraq has gone from being a war of aggression (at the outset), to being an act of terrorism, as the US project now consists of using military force to kill Iraqi citizens (who have no military) for fighting against US rule of their country.
Current US military actions, including the one in Iraq, are part of a defensive war that the US is waging against an Islamic terrorist organization.

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this war

Message Unit 37 - an example of patriotized history

The US has tortured lots of people all over the world for many decades.
The US didn't torture before now, and habitually doesn't torture.

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as in past wars

Message Unit 38 - an example of patriotized history

The US has tortured lots of people all over the world for many decades.
The US didn't torture before now, and habitually doesn't torture.

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our values

Message Unit 39 - an example of patriotized history

Habitually, the US behaves better than its enemies.

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our values

Message Unit 40 - an example of patriotized history

Violent nasty terrorists who are extremists and Muslims are far less violent than the US.

The falsehood contained in this text is is an example of the "be afraid of something (something that we are already doing)" propaganda line. Violent nasty terrorists who are Muslims and extremists actually can't begin to touch the US record for murderousness. According to the US, al Qaeda killed 3000 innocent people on Sept. 11, 2001. Since then the US has killed many tens of times that many. The US has killed as many innocent people as that in one week on several occasions since then. Hardly anyone is even trying to count the number of innocent resistance fighters the US is openly trying to kill in Iraq, and those who are trying to estimate the size of the group that is patriotically called the "innocent" (i.e., those innocent of opposing the US crime) admit to what are probably wild undercountings due to the patriotism-mandated need to always err on the pro-US side. The Lancet's estimate of 100,000 was by design a radical undercount of the number of innocents killed by the US, because it counted as non-innocent anyone who was fighting the US when the US killed them. It was also a biased sample because it didn't use the Falluja slaughter in the estimate, which would have put the estimate at 285,000 (cite Z magazine). The "Iraq body count" sample shares the undercount-by-design feature of not counting anyone who was fighting the US when the US killed them, but it isn't even pretending to be an estimate of the actual number killed anyway, just of the number of identified and reported people killed. Antiwar groups are so anxious not to appear biased against the US that they are now reporting figures as death totals whose originators don't even claim that that is what they are, thus knowingly and deliberately underreporting the number killed by the US. Antiwar groups also repeat the massive historical erasure inherent in not counting anyone who was killed by the US while fighting the US in his or her own country. It is important to point out the significance of this practice by almost all US critics of not counting anyone who was fighting the US or who was a member of a US target organization. This practice places the US in the enviable position of being able to deliberately erase from history, even from histories written by its critics, the murder of anyone that it has designated as its target. Another significant propaganda factor is the "civilians" line. In Iraq, the US is not fighting a government or a military, but the nonsubmitting citizens of the country. These people are actually all civilians. They lack anything like the weapons and organization that a government's military would have. It is highly patriotic to say that they are not civilians simply because they are fighting the US.
Violent nasty Muslim extremist terrorists are more violent than the biggest violent nasty non-Muslim extremist terrorist.

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uniquely abhorrent and dangerous

Message Unit 41 - an example of patriotized history

The US conquest of Iraq has nothing to do with any US war against an Islamic terrorist organization. The US conquest of Iraq is about taking over Iraq, and is not defensive. Nor is the US conquest of Iraq part of a US opposition to terror as a technique, because the US is not opposed to terror as a technique, and uses terror itself, extensively. Iraq was not supporting terror against the US prior to the US conquest of Iraq, but the US was supporting terror in Iraq. Since then, Iraq and the Iraqis have still not supported terror in the US, while the US project in Iraq has gone from being a war of aggression (at the outset), to being an act of terrorism, as the US project now consists of using military force to kill Iraqi citizens (who have no military) for fighting against US rule of their country.
Current US military actions, including the one in Iraq, are part of a defensive war that the US is waging against an Islamic terrorist organization.

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regrettably necessary to prevail over a uniquely abhorrent and dangerous enemy

Message Unit 42 - an example of patriotized history

The US has tortured lots of people all over the world for many decades.
The US didn't torture before now, and habitually doesn't torture.

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When we relax that standard

Message Unit 43 - an example of patriotized history

We should be much more worried about the injurious and lethal tortures that the US is in the habit of doing.
We should be really worried about non-injurious and nonlethal tortures that the US might do.

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it is nearly unavoidable that some objectionable practices will be allowed as something less than torture because they do not risk life and limb or do not cause very serious physical pain.

Message Unit 44 - an example of patriotized history

Many people that the US captures are captured because the US suspects them of opposing US conquest of their country, not because the US suspects them of terrorism.
When the US captures people, it does so because it suspects them of terrorism.

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What do we do if we capture a terrorist who

Message Unit 45 - an example of patriotized history

The US has tortured lots of people all over the world for many decades.
The US didn't torture before now, and habitually doesn't torture.

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risks opening the door to abuse as a matter of course

Message Unit 46 - an example of patriotized history

The US has tortured lots of people all over the world for many decades.
The US didn't torture before now, and habitually doesn't torture.

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lower our standards

Message Unit 47 - an example of patriotized history

The state of Israel is an ongoing act of land theft against clearly identified citizens of Palestine.
When it comes to aggression and terror, Israel is the target, not the perpetrator.

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Israel, no stranger to terrorist attacks, has faced this dilemma

Message Unit 48 - an example of patriotized history

Israel is a democratic, freedom-loving society.

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[Words of 1999 Israeli Supreme Court, referring to Israel, quoted by McCain]: "A democratic, freedom-loving society"

Message Unit 49 - an example of patriotized history

The US was fighting against Vietnam.
The US was fighting against North Vietnam, not Vietnam.

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North Vietnam

Message Unit 50 - an example of patriotized history

It was the enemy of the US that inflicted cruelties on the Americans, not the other way around,

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the cruelties inflicted on them by our enemies

Message Unit 51 - an example of patriotized history

In this case, on nontorture topics, US behavior has been wonderful, certainly better than that of its enemies

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we were different from our enemies, that we were better than them

Message Unit 52 - an example of patriotized history

The US was torturing people like crazy in Vietnam.
The US wasn't torturing people in Vietnam.

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we, if the roles were reversed, would not disgrace ourselves by committing or approving such mistreatment of them

Message Unit 53 - an example of patriotized history

In this case, on nontorture topics, US behavior has been wonderful, certainly better than that of its enemies

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The enemies we fight today hold our liberal values in contempt, as they hold in contempt the international conventions that enshrine them. I know that. But we are better than them, and we are stronger for our faith.

Message Unit 54 - an example of patriotized history

The US has tortured lots of people all over the world for many decades.
The US didn't torture before now, and habitually doesn't torture.

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The enemies we fight today hold our liberal values in contempt, as they hold in contempt the international conventions that enshrine them. I know that. But we are better than them, and we are stronger for our faith.

Message Unit 55 - an example of patriotized history

Habitually, the US behaves better than its enemies.

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The enemies we fight today hold our liberal values in contempt, as they hold in contempt the international conventions that enshrine them. I know that. But we are better than them, and we are stronger for our faith.

Message Unit 56 - an example of patriotized history

Habitually, the US obeys the international laws and norms about how nations are supposed to relate to each other and their people.